F10a to F6a twincam efi turbo

[j-six]

hi guys,

it's me again!

looks like i'm going to settle for an F6a twincam efi turbo than the k10a =(

the question is, would this be a direct bolt-on to the supercarry, esp to the transmission?

any comments would do help before i prepare my budget on this.

thanks mates.

[Brayden]

F6A twin cam will be just as difficult to install as a K10A. You really need the single cam F6A from an Every if you want to make the job easier.

[j-six]

F6A twin cam will be just as difficult to install as a K10A. You really need the single cam F6A from an Every if you want to make the job easier.

can you pls explain further as to what problems should i be encountering with a dohc f6a than a sohc f6a?

as far as i know the hard part would be the wiring and creation of an efi system from the existing fuel lines of the f10a.

turbo wise, piping will be the apparent problem.

tranny-wise, compared to the k10a swap by nozmonkeys, afaik, there is no need for a spacer if i'd use the dohc f6a...right?

[Billie]

I'd say engine mounts and getting oil to the engine. Wireing is easy.

[Brayden]

The reasons an SOHC F6A from an Every would be easier to install are obvious - the motor would be coming from the same body shape, so the manifolds, engine mounts, oil system are already configured correctly. It would be very close to a bolt-in swap.

Assuming you got the F6A DOHC from a Cappuccino you will still need to do a heap of work to get it sitting on the right angle in a Carry - even more work if the engine came from a FWD Alto.

[j-six]

The reasons an SOHC F6A from an Every would be easier to install are obvious - the motor would be coming from the same body shape, so the manifolds, engine mounts, oil system are already configured correctly. It would be very close to a bolt-in swap.

Assuming you got the F6A DOHC from a Cappuccino you will still need to do a heap of work to get it sitting on the right angle in a Carry - even more work if the engine came from a FWD Alto.

ahhh..thanks very much brayden and billie. it's simply because of the dohc design that will make the work harder, if not, complicated to install in the Carry, that's why.

btw was your pimpwagon an F5a sohc efi turbo?

[Brayden]

F5A SOHC factory turbo.

[Nehemiah]

I'll back up Brayden and Billie in saying that DOHC engines wont fit without a LOT of work...

Ever considered a G13BB from a late model carry?


Sam

[gZerO]

Mmm... G13BB into an SK410... interesting. If that'll fit, would a G16A from a current model APV van fit?

...Saw a GA413 Carry van on eBay a month or so ago with an engineered G16A + Turbo conversion...

[j-six]

Mmm... G13BB into an SK410... interesting. If that'll fit, would a G16A from a current model APV van fit?

...Saw a GA413 Carry van on eBay a month or so ago with an engineered G16A + Turbo conversion...

i guess my apv's g16a would fit but it would need a lot of custom work esp for the engine mounts =)

@nehemiah: unfortunately as much as i wanted to go for g13 engine most of the engines dropped here in the philippine market are workable or overused f6a and k10a engines.

[NozMonkeys]

Do they have worked K10a engines over there?

I wouldn't mind beefing mine up. I'm struggling to find information on them let alone upgrades.

For a 1000cc DOHC turbo there is something hellish holding it back, even in the wagon R I drove.

Go as big and as large as you can j-six. You won't have any regrets in the end.

[j-six]

Do they have worked K10a engines over there?

I wouldn't mind beefing mine up. I'm struggling to find information on them let alone upgrades.

For a 1000cc DOHC turbo there is something hellish holding it back, even in the wagon R I drove.

Go as big and as large as you can j-six. You won't have any regrets in the end.

thanks nozmonkeys! apparently a friend of mine who had his f5a swapped to f6a claims he can do the k10a engine swap. so i followed your thread and would do this as the basis of the swap with his idea in mind. =)
unfortunately i'm still sourcing the engines yet...

if you guys wouldn't mind i'm sticking so far with my f10a engine since haven't found my k10a or f6a either =(, tomorrow i'll have a JASMA muffler installed (2in exhaust) to complete my IHE set-up after doing a intake modification last may this year. here are the pics of my van from facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5 ... =753652875

[j-six]

hi guys,

it's me again, and finally the project turbo super carry will resume. but i will be needing all your help to build a fun van.

finally, as mentioned by brayden, i got hold of an f6a efi sohc turbo engine taken from an LJ10 by its previous owner. it is complete, it has the ecu with it as well, and they do claim it still work. the engine mounts fit perfectly, however i might be running short of tranny problems, since the f10a tranny doesn't fit exactly the holes of the f6a block. my friend also suggested to look for an oil sump and oil pick-up from the carry which has the f6a. same thing as well for the intake manifold.

i need your inputs on this matter:
1. for the tranny, what is the gear ratio of the f6a 5speed gearbox compared to that of the f10a? if i use the f10a tranny, will it run okay, considering a possible diff in gear ratio?
2. do i need to upgrade from drum brakes to disc brakes (plus that of the brake booster), since i'll be running turbo?

thanks guys!

[Brayden]

If your carry has drum brakes on the front it would be suicidal to not upgrade them to discs!

[j-six]

hi brayden, thanks for the reply! haha, yes i should get one over. anyway, this is the f6a efi sohc engine as seen in the picture that i'll be getting. any advise as for the intake section/ throttle body? i think if the engine will be angled it might not fit the compartment; it might shoot out the passenger seat. lol.