Conversion

[zeek73]

Can anybody recommend a professional business around South Coast Nowra area to perform a G10 conversion, preferably start to finnish. Though I am feeling a little bit guilty about this conversion, as I think the mighty boy is one of the last surviving, untouched boys around. Its just that as everybody here knows, you just can't live with the original engines limmitations. When I say original 41,000km. original radio and not a unoriginal hole drilled in the whole car, infact at times a wish I had bought a vehicle that had been modified to some degree. Any suggestions, even Sydney wise will be greatly appreciated.
Pete

[ferdie]

if its that good condition swap it for a "more modified" less stock one and convert that??

would get you some extra coins in your pocket to cover the conversion and save a good un-touched ute.....

[zeek73]

Good point Ferdie, I guess the fact that I'm very particular that I like starting with a blank canvas, unfortunetly I also get the attack of the guilts. If I push through the guilt I will use this ute and hope the mods do it justice. Otherwise sell the mighty boy and buy a Datsun 1200 ute (Maddat ute, thats some impressive engineering). Desperate to atleast find a business in the South Coast area before I decide, so much better to go to a place recommended by someone???
Cheers
Pete

[Brayden]

I can see your conundrum Pete, but I reckon I have a solution that will not make any changes that couldn't be reversed later, and won't require the cost of a professional install. There's a thread around here somewhere with the details of Chinese-made F8B engines, complete with EFI for $1300. That could be installed with some changes to the wiring and fuel pump, giving you 50% more power. Something worth considering.

Of course if you are set on the G10A path, get hold of the k-frame from an Auto MB. That will make the job much easier. I'm currently working on engine mount plans for this configuration that will hopefully make it a bolt in process.

[zeek73]

Thanks for the suggestions, I do have the auto subframe and 92 Swift for it already to go. My conscious will be alot clearer as long as who does the conversion does a first class job. Spoke to a local mechanic who has a good reputation and he said honestly I would find no one local who could do the work to a high standard. So anybody with suggestions of workshops Wollongong / Sydney??? As for the F8C would consider it, but I thought you had to import in volume to have them deal with you and to be honest not convinced on the quality of these packages.
Cheers
Pete

[nelpd96]

Pete the problem with he g10a from the later swift is that they have a bigger gearbox so you have to do some work to the firewall to get them to fit. The good news is that the swift cv's will fit on the MB shafts. Have a look through my build thread if you are dead keen on doing the.conversion and ask away.

[Brayden]

Pete the problem with he g10a from the later swift is that they have a bigger gearbox

Really? I've been around Swifts for a while and the general knowledge is that the SA series Swift gearbox is slightly larger than the later model SF series, mostly due to the different castings required for the body mounts.

[nelpd96]

I guess this comment is based only on my fitting one up to my MB I have not had he exposure that you have had. Having said that there is no way a late model g10a with box is going into a MB without firewall mods if you want your drive shaft aligned properly. I don't believe that is the case with the sa engine and box.

[Brayden]

Having said that there is no way a late model g10a with box is going into a MB without firewall mods if you want your drive shaft aligned properly.

Let me get back to you on that one.

[zeek73]

I'll be interested in the outcome of this, its actually a 94 after I went out and had a look not that I imagine it matters. Does anyone have any thoughts on the Weber MPE 750 turbo, other than the cost (which doesn't seem that bad )I am wondering why no one has done one or am I missing something???

[Brayden]

Id' say that nobody has tried a Weber motor because the bare motor cost is more than most F6A conversions cost in total.

[nelpd96]

Don't get me wrong the G10A is a great conversion but it is not a bolt in proposition. Stuff that I now know that will make life easy for others:

1. Machine the A/C part of the crank pulley it will give you more room.

2. If you have a manual MB then you are going to have to get creative with the sump or the height of the engine because it only just fits between the two MB cross members ( this is one of the things that leads to the gearbox issue)

3. You are going to have to grind back any bits that stick out around where the Filler plug for the box is because this is the closest point. There is a bit that sticks out here on the firewall that I cut and shut to give more clearance. You could move the engine forward to clear but the drive shaft won't be straight.

4. Before you fit the engine, machine the flywheel and remove the excess weight from around the outside as it will greatly improve the response of the engine.

5. Get hold of a bloke by the name of Mike Cove from 3Tech performance in Canada and get him to send you a 10 degree advance cam pulley for about $50 and be amazed as the way the engine responds.

6. The MB drive shafts will fit fine but fit the Swift inner CV to suit the gearbox.

7. The swift gear linkage is the same as the MB one only longer this can be shortened to suit then bolted to the MB one.

8. You can cut and shut the Swift exhaust to fit the MB it is only the rear muffler that you will need to replace as the swift one won't fit.

9. You can fit the swift electric fuel pump into the MB tank or I believe that Billie may have just fit the swift tank up complete.

10. You can use the swift mount on the front of the engine to provide additional stability or to allow you to remove the one that goes back to the top of the fire wall.

Hope that helps

Cheers
Paul

[zeek73]

Thanks for the reply Paul, it will certainly prove to be usefull in the future. I appeciate the effort it must have taken.
Cheers
Pete