Throttle body upgrade f6a
Oh yeah of course, forgot to mention that I'll share the info.
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- stevan_istheman
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As for TB size, im more interested in something thats easy to get parts for...
Silicon piping is getting difficult to get in anything under 2" so if i can make use of 2.00 - 2.50 inch pipe, it easier.
Also, many TB's have 60mm square bolt patters these days so swapping them around to a smaller/larger unit and joiner is a breeze.
I've also seen upto 90mm TBs used on anything from 1.8 - 4.0L so i really dont think the TB is going to be a big issue. Id rather not have a choke point out where i could have fixed any issues.
People get scared about air velocity running into an engine but in boosted engines is there a problem? I wouldnt think so.
Big TB means slow air velocity and less air into the engine,
Smaller TB gives a more rapid speed into the manifold/ports depending on your setup.
On N/A engines anyway.
So yeah... dunno what you guys think but thats my line of thinking.
Silicon piping is getting difficult to get in anything under 2" so if i can make use of 2.00 - 2.50 inch pipe, it easier.
Also, many TB's have 60mm square bolt patters these days so swapping them around to a smaller/larger unit and joiner is a breeze.
I've also seen upto 90mm TBs used on anything from 1.8 - 4.0L so i really dont think the TB is going to be a big issue. Id rather not have a choke point out where i could have fixed any issues.
People get scared about air velocity running into an engine but in boosted engines is there a problem? I wouldnt think so.
Big TB means slow air velocity and less air into the engine,
Smaller TB gives a more rapid speed into the manifold/ports depending on your setup.
On N/A engines anyway.
So yeah... dunno what you guys think but thats my line of thinking.
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As above flow testing is obviously the best to determine what's required.
I decided not to as after researching a lot of heavily modified Japanese F6A cappo's (Fighter Engineering, etc.) most of them retain the standard one.
I decided not to as after researching a lot of heavily modified Japanese F6A cappo's (Fighter Engineering, etc.) most of them retain the standard one.
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Massive ones... lolbenny wrote:Hey steve what cams u going to be running?
No idea yet, need to work out if i'll stay with the stock rods (i think i will) or go to billet units. Then i'll work out cam, then intake and TB.. Oh and theres gonna be a mains girdle in there somewhere too..
Just because i've got access to a CNC mill, why not use it?
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- stevan_istheman
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More of a i can so i will... haha!benny wrote:Are u getting brand new cams or regrind? A mains girdle to, isn't that a bit overkill or is that a I can so I will type of thing, ha ha
Prolly regrind, billet is too much hard work. Gonna go to tighe cams in brissy and see what they can do for me.
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- Rogue_Works
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hey benny, if you are keen on a throttle body, i have a few i'm willing to part with for a reasonable price... just another option for you when the time comes.
35mm
45mm
55mm
60mm
some of them are missing bits and pieces but i 'm pretty sure i have enough to make any of the throttle bodies whole and working
on a side note, cant say about other models, but between the k6a throttle and the few nissan throttles i have laying around, the accelerator doo dads are
also, my late input, hanging around a workshop that had a k6a in an off road buggy, bored out to 750cc (not stroked) running 120hp at the rear tyres... the BIG rear tyres. they ran a 60mm throttle body and their only restriction was how much torque the gearbox could handle.
35mm
45mm
55mm
60mm
some of them are missing bits and pieces but i 'm pretty sure i have enough to make any of the throttle bodies whole and working
on a side note, cant say about other models, but between the k6a throttle and the few nissan throttles i have laying around, the accelerator doo dads are
also, my late input, hanging around a workshop that had a k6a in an off road buggy, bored out to 750cc (not stroked) running 120hp at the rear tyres... the BIG rear tyres. they ran a 60mm throttle body and their only restriction was how much torque the gearbox could handle.
"c'mon guys, it's not that small"
Thanx rogue, will keep that in mind for sure, I should be bringing the buzz box back home shortly, 750cc out of a k6a, wasn't aware they had enough meat on them to go that big without stroking, were they running a custom manifold on the buggy?
- Rogue_Works
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the buggy was running custom inlet and exhaust manifolds with an sr20de throttle body, i have the inlet but its useless on a car (i.e. will stick out the bonnet!) but yeah, there is barely enough meat, as a matter of fact, the engine lunched itself when it dropped a bore, i have the engine in my garden shed actually haha, a later project perhaps
oh and i stuffed up, it was 770cc, using a mish mash of renault and suzuki internals i believe (of all things)
also, with throttle size, this engine was built for wide open throttle almost constantly.
oh and i stuffed up, it was 770cc, using a mish mash of renault and suzuki internals i believe (of all things)
also, with throttle size, this engine was built for wide open throttle almost constantly.
"c'mon guys, it's not that small"