Alto Works Compliance

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Goofy[HSK]
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With the purchase of another Alto Works, I'm again looking at compliance stuff;

This one has a couple more things done that should help - but I'm still unsure about some details.

Anyone who owns one of these I would like to know:

Standard rego or commercial?
2dr hatch, 3dr hatch, 2dr van, 2dr wagon???? Which one :NFI:
If commercial, where/how do you get GVM/GCM details

I have to fill in this:
http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/pdfs/per ... ehicle.pdf

To get a Statement of Requirements (list of things needed)
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benny
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Hey mate, not sure if this will help or if nsw is same as sa, but I'm doing mine as normal rego, 4 seater, need side intrusion bars in doors, rear lap/sash seat belts, all jap emission stickers done in English, import approval vin number plate, drivers side revision mirror needs to be changed from convex to concave, or other way around,cant remember what is on it, also English tyre placard, also have been told will need a cat converter, that's all I can think of at the moment, hope it helps, sorry if it didn't, lol
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Rogue_Works
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im not sure if this will help either (NSW) , but my alto is registered:

1988 SUZUKI ALTO87A
Shape: PVW (panel van windows)
Conditions: General Private useage

i do not believe mine is registered as a commercial vehicle, and as a side note, 680kg tare weight! need to go on a diet!

when i bought my one the charcoal canister was connected, but i was told there was no cat (although from underneath there is a suspiciously cat shaped device that looks much newer than the rest of the system, i,e, no surface rust).

my GVM is 930 while my GCM is blank. seating capacity is 2, despite having 4 seats :NFI:
"c'mon guys, it's not that small"
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Rogue_Works wrote: my GVM is 930 while my GCM is blank. seating capacity is 2, despite having 4 seats :NFI:
Which means it has been complied as commercial, and someone has refitted the rear seat afterwards. ;)
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Rogue_Works
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Thanks for clearing that up Brayden, :thumbup1:

something else that might help, goofy, you posted in my build thread whether i could upload any photos of the intrusion bars in the doors in the future, well, i figured i'd put them here seeing as its regarding your compliance
door card off
door card off
if there is anything wrong with this picture, please don't let me know
if there is anything wrong with this picture, please don't let me know
not a lot to be found...

on another topic, i couldn't find any identifying markings or anything on the windscreen.
"c'mon guys, it's not that small"
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The new alto has bars done (albeit the certificate is in VIC somewhere) - so not too worried about that now.

Looks like I will attempt 2seat private reg as sedan first.
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Any hints for engine number reading without a hoist ? :NFI:
have to look through inlet manifold in between alternator and starter :\
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One expensive snap-on boroscope camera later (borrowed obviously) I have the number :P
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Anyone have translated Tyre Placard, Emissions/Tune up stickers?
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holk
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I don't have them, but I can make them if you provide the data. I have made a few lately for an engineer who does engine conversions and certification.
[img]http://www.tamon.org/gallery/d/11796-1/holk3-1.jpg[/img]
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Goofy[HSK]
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Picture of mine attached ± °
Attempted translation effort (I know 0 japanese.)

昭和57年度排出ガス規制適合車
Vehicles that meet emissions regulations in fiscal 1982

工ンジン型式 F5B 型
Engine Model Engineering: F5B Type

工ンジン総排気量 547 cm3
The total amount of engine exhaust Engineering: 547 cm3
(Engine Capacity obv)

装着されている装置 EGR, 工ンジン改良方式
Equipment that is installed: EGR, Improved Engine Engineering Method

工ンジン調整値
Engine Factory Adjusted Value

アイドル回転数 950±50 rpm
Idle Speed: 950±50 rpm

点火時期(アイドル時) 12±1/950±50 BTDC°/rpm
Ignition Timing (At Idle): 12±1/950±50 BTDC°/rpm

CO調整値(アイドル時) 1.5±1.0 %
CO Adjusted Value (At Idle): 1.5±1.0 % -- Carbon Monoxide?

HC調整値(アイドル時) 1100以下 ppm
HC Adjusted Value (At Idle): Below 1100 ppm -- HydroCarbon?

この自動車は道路運送車両の保安基準の規定に基
This car is based on the provisions of the safety standards for road vehicles

づく57年度排出ガス規制に適合したものです
It is a thing conform to the FY 1982 exhaust emission regulations brute

鈴木自動車工業株式会社
Suzuki Motor Industry Co Ltd

エアクリーナエレメント: 交 換 20,000km 走行毎
Air Cleaner Element: Replace every 20,000km run

スパークプラグ: NGK DCP8EVX, ND XU24EP-ZU
Spark Plug: NGK DCP8EVX, ND XU24EP-ZU



Some will need further tweaking obv
Attachments
CM11V F5B Emissions-Tuneup
CM11V F5B Emissions-Tuneup
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benny
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Mine look exactly the same goofy, and holk if u can do English ones I would be keen aswell
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Goofy[HSK]
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I actually ordered a replacement one of those from JP, but didn't seem to have stock.
Will try for a F6A one next order
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Goofy[HSK]
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So its made to comply with 1982 regs!!..
Guess we'll leave that off

EDIT: hmm, for F6A perhaps some Cappuccino's around have them in English already?
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holk
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Guys,

I have given the copy of the plate to a japanese friend who for a couple of beers will translate it for me.
As far as the plate is concerned, I produce them in laminated ecosolvent printed vinyl; just make sure they are suitable in your state. I have done many tire placards this way in Vic and there is no problem.
(I can even colour-code them down here to match specific colours combos).
[img]http://www.tamon.org/gallery/d/11796-1/holk3-1.jpg[/img]
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