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lazeboy_2003
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new f8b efi engine

Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:05 pm

hey guys

just seeing if it would be worth buying a new efi f8b motor with wiring,gearbox,ecu?
im just not sure if it would be a hard task to install and set up. its also from china not too expensive. would like to know a few more opinions on the matter if anyone can help?

thanks
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:49 pm

I'd like to know where/how you can get one from China!
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:45 pm

http://sxpower.com.au/site/index.php?op ... &Itemid=77

theres an australian dealer for these, i contacted them about parts/engines, they will sell you one no prob. the place i talked to was in sydney i think

Edit; see link above
http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=180305
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:26 am

Ive bought engine parts from these guys before ( sxpower) , good people to deal with :thumbup1:
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:44 am

I bought my new oil pump from them when my engine was rebuilt.
I had quite a long chat about the engines, more so the fuel injection side of things, They said there was a problem with the electronics, he did tell me what it was but I cant remember :oops: and they where not happy with the supplier at all regarding this issue. They where hoping to get it resolved but where not holding there breath.
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:46 am

the important part is price
how much is one of these gonna cost
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:37 pm

arklan wrote:
the important part is price
how much is one of these gonna cost


The price was less than a total reconditioned engine. I remember I was told around the $1300 mark. This was a few months ago when I got the oil pump which was approx $130.
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:25 pm

That sounds pretty good Husky, even if you factor in an aftermarket ECU to ignore their electronic issues.
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:08 pm

WE WOULD NEED A MINIMUM ORDER OF FIVE OF THESE.
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CHINESE F8B ENGINE   1.jpg
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:19 pm

They are f8b with wiring , My offsider is in Taiwan this week, in the long run it is sometimes easier to ship through there than the mainland. Off the top of my head, I think they could be landed in AUS for about AUS $1500. Look at the picture, what you see is what you get. The only clarification I am lacking is the what is included in the wiring loom. That is I want to see the circuitry in western terminology
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:33 pm

Product Group:
gasoline engine

Product Name:
Gasoline Engine F8B (EFI Model)

Category:
Auto Parts > Auto Parts > Engine Parts

Details:
1 structural model   3cylinders/inline4stroke/watercooled/singleoverhead camshaft(SOHC)/electronic fuel injection
combustion multi ball model
fuel injection system multipoint order injection(BOSCH M1. 5. 4P)
air-fuel Delivery ratio control closed loop reaction type
air intake floor measurement air pressure and temperature
bore mm 68. 5
stroke 72
total Displacement L 0. 796
compression Ratio   9. 4:1
compression Pressure(400r/min) Kpa 1250-1450
cylinder pressure differnce ≤98
oil pressure idling speed 150-370
rotate speed(3000r/min) 300-450
rated speed 350-500
lubricating oil capacity L 2. 5
ignition Order   1-3-2
direction of ratation(look at the front end) clockwise
starting mode electrical starting
lubrication mode pressure and splash combined type
cooling mode forced circulatory water-cooling
distributor mode non-contact electronic control program
2 performance rated speed r/min 5500
rated power KW transversal type 24. 9
   
max. Torque(3000~4000R/MIN) N. M 57
min. Fuel consumption g/KW. H 295+20. 650
low Idling speed r/min 900±50
Rate of Oil Fuel Consumption % ≤0. 5
3 adjustment Idle Spark Advance Angle (°) 7°±1
Idle Displacement CO % ≤0. 5
HC PPm ≤100
enter & Exaust clearance(cold) mml 0. 13~0. 18
4 dimensions without Transmission mm transversal type 440*484*692
   
with transmission transversal type 760*484*692
   
5 net weight without transmission Kg transversal type 78. 5
   
with Transmission transversal type 103. 5

Model/Article No:
F8b

Place of Origin:
796

Brand Name:
SuZuki

Price Terms:
FOB

Payment Term:
T/T, CASH

Packing Info:
wooden case

Delivery Time:
15days

Minimum Order:
5
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:16 pm

Interesting that it has higher compression than a Japanese F8B, yet it produces 5kw less and is rated to only 5500RPM.
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:16 pm

These engines often find their way into locally made jet ski's in the Us mid west.If you get into it, I can also provide a list of similar products that you would be well advised to not engage with. As a child, and yes I did in fact start off as a child, I heard the term "JAP CRAP". Sometimes true, but as time passed, increasingly silly. Perhaps we are in the China phase of that sort of discourse. I,We have dealt with these people. Their English skills leave a bit to be desired, but since my 18 stone red headed Aussy offsider is fluent in written and spoken Chinese, it is not much of a worry. Having said that, while I am not prepared to risk my reputation by attesting to the absolute validity of the stated data put forth on those engines it would be very much inconsistent with their overall record if they were not well grounded in there documented testing results.
 
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:41 pm

Bill,
What about just sourcing of parts or components?
Looking at that picture the injection is into the intake manifold, rather than thru-head. Still uses distributor for ignition, so not too much of a step from the standard F8B.
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Re: new f8b efi engine

Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:42 pm

The injection setup looks much like a Matiz. There seems to be three injectors into the head and you can see the fuel rail and pressure reg. Even the Matiz still has a dizzy. The electronic ignition is where you'll get most of the power increase, the fuel injection just gives you better fuel metering over the whole rev range and better idle control.

I dare say the lower rpm limit is due to crappy conrods. Probably made from old pushbikes and coke cans.

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