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Ok, so while I have the engine out, I though I would look at how to mount the supercharger. I don't think my original idea of bolting it to the existing manifold will work since you can't bolt 'through' the charger or the manifold. I could try putting it where the alternator is and then use it as a blow through, but I like the idea of using an SU.

I'm a bit stuck for ideas. Could get a whole new manifold made up and that way I could mount it forward so the pullie lines up so I don't need to make up an extension.

I don't think you could mount it on top of the manifold, even with an adaptor... unless you want the carby sitting on top of the bonnet!

Now that would be different.

I was thinking of getting some pipe work made up to mount the carbie next to it, not ideal but would work.

Hey Trav,

Have a look at Ben's (mini kompressor's) gallery, custom sideways mounted supercharger, should give you an idea on what you could do with it.

It's not possible to make a new water outlet for the back of the block that is fairly flat, then mount the charger down under the intake manifold is it?

Cheers

ToranaGuy

Yeah, I asked him if his friend would make one up for the AMR, he was going to get back to me.

I thought of going down the route of putting it where the alternator is and using it as a blow through, but then I would need to get a different carbie or make a pressure box to fit the SU in. I would go the turbo carbie if I went that way. I guess the advantage would be that I could add an intercooler if I wanted to. Of course, the next logical step would be to go EFI.

Might see what cost is involved in trying to fit it as a draw through before I make up my mind. You don't know anybody out this way that can manufacture a custom manifold do you?

After looking into it, I am starting to warm to the idea of EFI. I was just wondering what is out there. I've looked at the conversion that Brayden did, and that looks reasonably straight forward.

Another option is to try the engine in the Matiz if it is similar enough to use the manifold and EFI from that? Thought I might be able to find one at a wreckers easy enough. There is a whole Matiz for sale around the courner for only $700. Would be funny to by the whole car just for the EFI setup. But then I could just swap the whole engine in.

I also found an EFI version of the F8B, made in China, but maybe if I could get a hold of that system then it would be the easiest to fit. Don't know about quaility or performance though. Does anydoby know what that might have been fitted to?

Still got to save up a bit of cash before doing anything though. On a positive not, my flares turned up today! Just got to go and pick them up form the post office tomorrow. Awe - wait for it - some!

Matiz manifolds are different. What about matiz ecu, throttle body with sohc f6a intake manifold?

Mmm, might be an idea. Wonder what is involved in fitting the Matiz throttle body to the F6A manifold? Have to find a wreackers around here and see if I can find some to look at. Would make fitting the ECU easier, but then if I was going to take it to a tuner, then it wouldn't be an issue. Might be a cheaper way to get on the road though, then I can save up for a performance ECU later.

There is no easy way to do EFI on the cheap. Trying to frankenstein parts from a Matiz onto an F8B would be difficult because the heads are different, so the distributor won't fit and neither will the manifold.
You could use an F6A manifold, distributor, throttle body etc as I have done, with an F6A ECU and bump the fuel pressure up or fit larger injectors to compensate for the F8B's extra capacity. However you'll still need to sort out the ignitor and coil, and somehow wire the whole thing up - impossible without the F6A wiring loom and/or an ECU pinout.

In the end buying a standalone ECU is about $1000 and is completely scalable for future mods. To bother installing the factory ECU from another car is a false economy IMO.

If you can get a Matiz on the cheap I would sling the whole lot in rather than try to make some sort of hybrid.

Thanks Brayden, I was starting to think the same. If I went to the trouble of getting an F6A manifold, then might as well grab the whole EFI system.

I take it the engine out of the Matiz would need custom engine mounts/brackets, one of the reasons I liked the F8B, easy to fit.

Had a bit of a call around after the F6A system and had no joy. Have to look on Import Monster or similar to see what I can find.

Has anybody thought of getting the EFI off the Maruti 800? Probably harder to get than the F6A setup.

Oh well, the search continues.

This is way out on a limb here but what about a Triumph triple EFI setup? Bikes usually run Individual throttle bodies so you could space them however you needed to with a custom plenum bolted on. Power commander ECU should give you plenty of scope for tuning and adapting the bike pickup sensors shouldn't be too difficult (maybe a modded dizzy with the sensor mounted in it).

marauti 800 is a daewoo matiz? Or alto?

Playwme,
I like the idea of the Triumph triple EFI, but the issue is sorting out the water jacket, that is why the manifold from the F6A is the way to go as they match up and you are ready to go, well sort of.

Billie,
The reason I mentioned the Marauti is that it is fitted with an EFI version of the F8B. One would think that it would be a straight bolt on. Don't know how hard they are to get though.

Well, looks like I have found a Gym Knee (Jimny, crazy Japenglish ) F6A that should do the trick. Just have to organise to get it here and I can take what I need off it. Going to strip some more stuff off the Hatch before I get rid of the shell. If anybody wants someting let me know. I have taken the following out, but the rest is up for grabs:

Engine and gearbox,
Seats,
Stearing wheel,
Rear suspension.

It has a sunroof if anybody wants that as well.

That canopy is different to what is usually seen on MightyBoys & I like it. Other brands are usually hinged off the cabin roof so that the canopy is more like a lid. The only 'ugly' part is how the roof rails on yours were done, otherwise it is a neater & more practical set-up.
I ended up dicing the old hinges on mine & building a pantograph hinge that allows me to lift the whole canopy off when I don't want it. It hangs off a rear window/load protection grille & once the canopy is locked it can't be removed without destructive force.

The 800 in the marauti is the same as a matiz. They had f8c (matiz) and the f8d, 4 valve sohc. Why not take your chance and buy a f8c, get a dohc f6a head, bolt them togeather, get bigger injectors and run the matiz throttle body and ecu.