Page 1 of 1

Repeat Topic: Electric Turbos

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:22 pm
by pullbackandgo
I know this has been discussed before but I was just watching 'Beyond Tomorrow' (yeah yeah I know :roll: ) and they had a segment on the creator of DYSON vacuum cleaners. The reason I am reopening this can of worms is that they have created a electric motor with rpm capabilities of 100000+! Not 10K or 50K but 110 thousand RPM!!! :-o

I no longer own a suzuki and I'm not gunna waste my time on my current car, so is any one interested in getting one going??

SOOO COOL! :twisted:

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:59 pm
by Josh
Waste of energy mate. If you can make exhaust-powered turbochargers reach boost pressures that the engine seals can't handle then there is absolutely no point in wasting good watts on having an electric motor do it.

Sure, you could eliminate a bit of lag, but the energy flow of such a concept is completely backward.

I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I'm extremely sceptical that it is at all practical, let alone beneficial enough to warrant the additional costs and maintenance. :wink:

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:42 pm
by pullbackandgo
My theory is that if you stop inhibiting the flow of the exhaust gas it will essentially let the engine breath better...

By utilising the power already getting generated by the alternator you will not be adding any load to the engine, like a standard turbo...

Just seems logical... :NFI:

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:35 pm
by Josh
That's incorrect.

Alternators do not operate at full load at all times and the strain they apply to the engine is increased as load is placed on the electrical system. It is more obvious in a MightyBoy than most other cars - just turn your headlights on and off at idle and you'll see exactly what I mean.

A turbocharger recycles wasted energy in order to acheive greater efficiency and better power figures.

An electrically powered centrifugal supercharger is not even comparable.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:44 am
by d-swift
could however be interesting as a method of reducing turbo lag....

possibly fit it with a clutching mechanisin and a cutoff point..

would be verrrry interesting

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:33 am
by Brayden
Err... how could a turbine on the intake reduce turbo lag? If the motor isn't producing enough exhaust volume and velocity to spin the turbo, then this electric turbine on the intake can't suck any air because the compressor wheel on the turbo will be causing a bottleneck.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:39 am
by pullbackandgo
I think he means like a twin turbo setup... one standard, one electric... :twisted:

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:51 pm
by Brayden
Yes I realise that, but it is having both an electric and exhaust driven turbo that would cause the problem I described. ;)

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:09 am
by Colin
if it was a viable propersition it would have allready been done

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:11 pm
by Josh
Colin wrote:if it was a viable propersition it would have allready been done
AMEN!