ok, well how available are these engines? with a higher lower compression head, will an alto turbo setup work on the 800?
also, im not a fan of a 4 speed, what 5 speed will link up?
Noob wanting information!!
F8B engines are very common. Any Suzuki specialist should be able to source one with ease. Yes an Alto turbo setup will work on an F8B, but of course that comes with its own set of modifications and expenses. (As all good things do!)
5 speed options are limited to an import Alto, or Daewoo Matiz box, neither of which are a direct fit.
A point to note is that the Alto 5 speed has identical final drive to the standard F8B 4 speed, and the Matiz box is also similar. So in reality all you gain is an extra gearset to shift through.
(Which is the reason I have held off installing my 5 speed until the 4 speed shits itself)
Sorry if all this is coming across in a negative way, its just that after sinking close to idiotic amounts of money modifying my ute over the last 8 years I am ultra-realistic about what is worthwhile and value for money.
5 speed options are limited to an import Alto, or Daewoo Matiz box, neither of which are a direct fit.
A point to note is that the Alto 5 speed has identical final drive to the standard F8B 4 speed, and the Matiz box is also similar. So in reality all you gain is an extra gearset to shift through.
(Which is the reason I have held off installing my 5 speed until the 4 speed shits itself)Sorry if all this is coming across in a negative way, its just that after sinking close to idiotic amounts of money modifying my ute over the last 8 years I am ultra-realistic about what is worthwhile and value for money.
F8B EFI turbo - Three pots and a snail.
no, no, its not at all mate. its alot better hearing it here instead of at a workshop after already buying the car! well, the 800cc might even get a look in... after all the car is only 700 odd kilos! still, a 5 speed would be nice, does the alto 5 speed have an adaptor plate or will it require a custom bell housing etc?
sorry bout all the questions but ive finally found someone with some real MB knowledge... milk it...
sorry bout all the questions but ive finally found someone with some real MB knowledge... milk it...
If you can source a 5 speed from an import '86-87 CA71V Alto (FWD) it will bolt straight in, so long as you have the matching driveshafts. But as mentioned the cost is a nil gain given that the final drive is identical to a stock F8B 4 speed.
P.S. The last time I checked the humble Mighty Boy tipped the scales at less than 600kg. A MK1 Swift GTi is up around the 700kg mark - mind you they also have 4 times the power of a stock MightyBoy!
P.S. The last time I checked the humble Mighty Boy tipped the scales at less than 600kg. A MK1 Swift GTi is up around the 700kg mark - mind you they also have 4 times the power of a stock MightyBoy!
F8B EFI turbo - Three pots and a snail.
i'll sit on this info for a while, but ive always wanted a MB so i will prob try and find one after my bimmer is sold. the 800cc engine seems to be ok, how will it be on an open road? in 4th, will it sit on 100 - 110 without sitting on redline?!
edit: under my name it says stock kei, some people have twin cam kei, what engine is that? would it be the 5 or 800 with a twin cam head?
edit: under my name it says stock kei, some people have twin cam kei, what engine is that? would it be the 5 or 800 with a twin cam head?
It will sit on 100 at around 4000rpm, redline is somewhere around 6. That is with the 800 engine and 800 box in stock form.
The stock kei thingy you asked about is just a title you get related to the number of posts. i.e the more posts the better you are until you reach the pinnacle of "Ultimate Kei"
The stock kei thingy you asked about is just a title you get related to the number of posts. i.e the more posts the better you are until you reach the pinnacle of "Ultimate Kei"
Speed Limited: I'm Pedalling as Fast as I Can
1987 Mighty Boy
Injected F8B (love it!)
http://www.freewebs.com/fitre/
1987 Mighty Boy
Injected F8B (love it!)
http://www.freewebs.com/fitre/
oh... boy is my face red....
im going to call every jap place in SA to see how avaliable the alto engine is, well go from there. the 800 will do for now but knowing me and my record with cars it wont stay too standard for long
on another note brayden, i noticed your a moderator, i sent you a PM about PM's, did you get it. ive sent a couple but they wont come up in sent PM's, only the outbox. does this mean the message want sent?
thanks
im going to call every jap place in SA to see how avaliable the alto engine is, well go from there. the 800 will do for now but knowing me and my record with cars it wont stay too standard for long
on another note brayden, i noticed your a moderator, i sent you a PM about PM's, did you get it. ive sent a couple but they wont come up in sent PM's, only the outbox. does this mean the message want sent?
thanks
PM's move to the outbox once sent until the recipicant reads the message. Once it has been read, it will move into the sent box. (When it is in the outbox, you can still edit the message, say to add things you might of missed etc. )
)Garry. Nuff sed!
the stock F8 will happily sit on 110 all day, which is the legal limit anyway.
I regularly do 300k trips, and step out of the car not too stiff and sore, as long as you take a break which you should do every couple of hours anyway.
The only thing you really have to worry about is to carry spare hoses, fanbelt, etc as they can be hard to source in the bush.
oh and staying out of the way of semis.
the most important thing is to make sure you fit a new cam belt use the old one as a spare, if you break the fanbelt when driving, especially at speed, you junk the valves and maybe the motor.
I always fit new big ends in a motor when I don't know the history, they don't cost much, and if you lose a big end you junk the crank. they can be replaced without pulling the engine.
I regularly do 300k trips, and step out of the car not too stiff and sore, as long as you take a break which you should do every couple of hours anyway.
The only thing you really have to worry about is to carry spare hoses, fanbelt, etc as they can be hard to source in the bush.
oh and staying out of the way of semis.
the most important thing is to make sure you fit a new cam belt use the old one as a spare, if you break the fanbelt when driving, especially at speed, you junk the valves and maybe the motor.
I always fit new big ends in a motor when I don't know the history, they don't cost much, and if you lose a big end you junk the crank. they can be replaced without pulling the engine.
thanks for the good insight mate. ive sourced a MB but its in NSW, im in SA. the price is good, but freight is a killer, any suggestions on freighting companys, or better ways of transporting cars? he said its prob a bit far fetched taking a 550cc MB for a road trip that far!
a good mate of mine had a hilux which he's done all of the labour himself, aswell as fitting a 2J supra engine conversion. he seemed more than eager to help fit a 600cc turbo in! fingers crossed, if i can get this MB to adelaide i smell a project car comming on
does anyone know of any MB's for sale in SA or VIC? im not having any luck in the forums.
a good mate of mine had a hilux which he's done all of the labour himself, aswell as fitting a 2J supra engine conversion. he seemed more than eager to help fit a 600cc turbo in! fingers crossed, if i can get this MB to adelaide i smell a project car comming on
does anyone know of any MB's for sale in SA or VIC? im not having any luck in the forums.
hey guys, how weak is the stock 550cc MB engine? ive spotted one and am looking to freight it to SA meaning i cant take it for a test drive! what mods can i do to power it up a bit, nothing too expensive as im looking to ditch the engine after 6 months or so
Sadly the 550 isn't a viable base for inexpensive mods, "powering it up" is something you need to commit a lot of money, time, and pioneering spirit to.
F8B EFI turbo - Three pots and a snail.
Ive been reading this old thread and it got me thinking. I know the idea of the gixer 1000 engined MB is going to be hard to engineer, So I was thinking of going the route of the F8B motor for now.
Brayden you said a mildly tuned f8b is good for 11secs 0-100km/h. What is a turbo version like yours good for?
My "big plan" is to get 2 Mb's 1 for me and the misses. She already wants to know if it will have aircon. Ive seen the A/c thread and my question is did the Alto hatch(f8b)have A/c available? Im on the look out for 2 MB's
Thanks
Brayden you said a mildly tuned f8b is good for 11secs 0-100km/h. What is a turbo version like yours good for?
My "big plan" is to get 2 Mb's 1 for me and the misses. She already wants to know if it will have aircon. Ive seen the A/c thread and my question is did the Alto hatch(f8b)have A/c available? Im on the look out for 2 MB's
Thanks
Yes the Alto/Hatch and MB all had A/C available as a dealer options in certain places.
In regard to your question about speed from a turbo F8B, my MB is about on par with a Swift GTi or V6 Commodore. That's running 7PSI on an otherwise stock motor.
In regard to your question about speed from a turbo F8B, my MB is about on par with a Swift GTi or V6 Commodore. That's running 7PSI on an otherwise stock motor.
F8B EFI turbo - Three pots and a snail.
I am sure you will have fun with the F8b even in stock form for a while. I was still happy with mine after 12 months but when it spat a compression ring due to crap fuel I got the opportunity to go G10a with a modded head & a bigger carbie (120Y apparently) with a 5 speed box. For now 1st won't select but 2nd goes like stink - stop to 70Km in a hurry. I have not had opportunity to drive out of town yet, its in pieces.
as for getting your 'Boy home try a few removalist companies for backload prices or there is a website, I think it's backloads.com.au , not certain. you can easily beat the car carrying prices.
as for getting your 'Boy home try a few removalist companies for backload prices or there is a website, I think it's backloads.com.au , not certain. you can easily beat the car carrying prices.
So many delays to getting my MB back in order with 993cc & 5 speed transaxle... neighbor issue gone, donor shell up on rotisserie, new sheds on the way.... another project also..